I appreciate that we all going to be biased here but from were I was standing Hall’s assault on Rob Hopley was nasty, reckless and over the top. If messrs Hall and Finley are interested the latest news is that Rob Hopley may never play again -
http://blogs.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/seagulls/
I hope they’re proud of themselves!
fifty-fifty ball in my oppion seagull.
but i am sure everyone at witton will wish rob hopley a full recovery.
Sadly injuries happen in football, sometimes by someone simply being over enthusiastic, sometimes simply by accident and ever so rarely, by intent (Roy Keane for example on Alfie Haarland wasn’t it?) I don’t think this tackle was in that category, probably in the first one, it was a Cup Tie between two teams of similar ability and I feel the most committed team won, sadly this led to someone getting hurt, but that is part and parcel of football.
WHS.
Thoroughly professional performance AGAIN yesterday. First goal was crucial in deciding the outcome.
I thought the whole back four played extremely well - both full backs had big games.
Central Midfield looks well balanced, and in Brad and Fozzie, we’ve got great outlets and always the chance of goals.
Re. The tackle that unfortunately injured Rob Hopley, I was sat ten yards away, and the reason there was no card was because Hall actually played the ball! Really hope that Rob’s injury isn’t as serious as is being initially made out though.
Good vocal support 2nd half, lets carry it on at Chasetown on Tuesday - who are one of the best supported teams in the Division.
Up The Albs
Seagull1967 wrote:
Ridiculous statement Seagull. Nobody would like to see a player’s career ended that way and you will not find a sole at Witton that does not wish the lad well in his recovery. Hopefully it will turn out not to be as bad and he will soon be back playing football.
The referee didn’t give a card for the tackle and the reaction of your players near to the incident didn’t suggest that anyone involved judged there to be any intent. As I said in another post from what we have seen of Steve Hall at Witton he is certainly not a dirty player and if you notice he was helping in the positioning of the stretcher when Hopley was been taken off. I am sure as a fellow player he would be upset to learn the extent of the injury.
I hardly think that Gary Finlay had anything to do with the situation so to bring him into your quote above is unnecessary!
Best wishes to Rob and no need for you to be bitter!
Made the headline story on the FA website. See Link below. Also the attendance was the second highest of the round behind Lowestoft v Redbridge.
http://www.thefa.com/TheFACup/FACompetitions/TheFATrophy/NewsAndFeatures/2009/Colwyn_report.aspx
Dear Seagull I appreciate your reaction to what happened to Rob Hopley, I hope he will be ok!! As others have said Steve Hall is definately NOT the type of player to try to deliberately hurt someone, It was just an accident in a game between two evenly matched and comitted sides. Good luck in the North league!
What was the gate, seemed a lot of Wittoners there.
WHS.
Official attendance according to the UniBond website was 326, I have seen figures that suggest around 80 Witton supporters.
I was away for the weekend but was overjoyed to hear the fantastic result! Well done Albion!.. :cheer:
Whilst I was hugely impressed by Mr. Owen’s gracious comments in defeat as a 'Bay supporter, I’m a bit disappointed to see Mr. Seagull on our forum posting such unfounded (and unnecessary) malicious comments suggesting that our manager and players had somehow contrived to set out to deliberatly end a fellow footballer’s playing career.
Mr. Seagull clearly doesn’t know much about Witton Albion and I’m sure he will be hugely embarrassed by his comments when he re-reads them once he has cooled down from writing such “heat of the moment” stuff.
I would like to join the many other Albion supporters here who wish Rob Hopley all the very best for a full and speedy recovery.
Central Grounder wrote:
[quote]I was away for the weekend but was overjoyed to hear the fantastic result! Well done Albion!.. :cheer:
Whilst I was hugely impressed by Mr. Owen’s gracious comments in defeat as a 'Bay supporter, I’m a bit disappointed to see Mr. Seagull on our forum posting such unfounded (and unnecessary) malicious comments suggesting that our manager and players had somehow contrived to set out to deliberatly end a fellow footballer’s playing career.
Mr. Seagull clearly doesn’t know much about Witton Albion and I’m sure he will be hugely embarrassed by his comments when he re-reads them once he has cooled down from writing such “heat of the moment” stuff.
I would like to join the many other Albion supporters here who wish Rob Hopley all the very best for a full and speedy recovery.[/quote]
As I said we’re all going to be biased! Could someone point out where I suggested that Hall set out to end Rob Hopley’s career because I can’t see it? I said it was a nasty, reckless and over the top challenge and I stand by that. Unlike the vast majority of Wittoonians who were grouped behind the goal at the opposite end of the ground I was stood at the end the Bay were attacking and was more or less directly in line with the challenge. One thing I know for sure is that I had a much better view of the incident than Central Grounder, at least I was there.
Apparently after the match the ref (or rather his assistants) decided it was a red card offence after all. Bit late really. Then again all that would mean is a three match ban for Hall. He’d be back playing again in a couple of weeks which is more than can said for Rob Hopley.
Regarding Gary Finley lets just say that during his time as Bay manager he wasn’t very popular and took the club backwards. Obviously the fact you’re top of the league suggests he’s improved since.
http://cbfc.lefora.com/2009/10/02/colwyn-bay-v-witton-2/page1/
When one of your star players is badly hurt it is only natural to react the way the Colwyn Bay supporter is doing, but the fact remains it was a tough game for both sides and injuries happen when players are as committed as both sets were on Saturday. I thought it was hard challenge that was just mistimed, but as a Wittoner I would say that wouldn’t I? If I supported Bay I would be annoyed too, who is right? we will never know because we don’t have action replays in this level of football.
WHS.
Seagull, you expressed the opinion that “Hall’s ASSAULT on Rob Hopley was NASTY, RECKLESS and OVER THE TOP”, and concluded by saying “I hope they (Hall and Finley) are PROUD OF THEMSELVES”.
If such words are’nt meant to infer that Hall and Finley deliberately contrived to injure Rob Hopley then I can’t for the life of me understand what you WERE trying to say.
Such inflammatory comments don’t help in the slightest, and would probably have been better kept to yourself.
Like my old gran used to say, “If you can’t say anything nice, better to say nothing at all…”.
“APPARENTLY after the match,the ref (OR RATHER HIS ASSISTANTS) decided it was a red card offence after all.”
What an absurd statement. First of all, as Stephen Fry once said on QI, anything that starts with the word “Apparently” is usually bullsh*t. Secondly you are saying that the referee, who is the only person who has the power to decide if something is a red card offence or not, did NOT change his mind.
As for the assistants who “apparently” decided that what they didn’t think was a red card offence at the time suddenly became one later, I’m guessing that they were cornered in the bar by one of your chums and said something to humour him.
Best wishes to Rob Hopley and I hope the injury isn’t as bad as first thought.
To paraphrase Eric from OT -
‘when zee seagulls, come onto zee forum, it is because rubbish will be thrown/posted’
Seagulls are vermin and should be treated as such
Witton_Albion_fc wrote:
[quote]“APPARENTLY after the match,the ref (OR RATHER HIS ASSISTANTS) decided it was a red card offence after all.”
What an absurd statement. First of all, as Stephen Fry once said on QI, anything that starts with the word “Apparently” is usually bullsh*t. Secondly you are saying that the referee, who is the only person who has the power to decide if something is a red card offence or not, did NOT change his mind.
As for the assistants who “apparently” decided that what they didn’t think was a red card offence at the time suddenly became one later, I’m guessing that they were cornered in the bar by one of your chums and said something to humour him.
Best wishes to Rob Hopley and I hope the injury isn’t as bad as first thought.[/quote]
Actually I haven’t got any friends at all, in the bar or elsewhere. I’m just a sad and lonely individual, as if you hadn’t all worked that out already.
I was referring to what I’d read in the following places -
http://blogs.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/seagulls/
http://cbfc.lefora.com/2009/10/02/colwyn-bay-v-witton-2/page1/
I’ve no idea who ‘flashtaff’ is although it appears to be someone closely connected to the club. Tim Channon is a very highly respected and very experienced local sports journalist. I not sure about flashtaff but I’m more than happy to believe what Tim has to say.
Seagull1967 wrote:
Regarding Gary Finley lets just say that during his time as Bay manager he wasn’t very popular and took the club backwards. Obviously the fact you’re top of the league suggests he’s improved since.
http://cbfc.lefora.com/2009/10/02/colwyn-bay-v-witton-2/page1/[/quote]
Not wanting this to become a CBFC feud or anything played out on this message board; but for the record, Gary did oversee moving a team from lower mid table to a narrow play off defeat, he brought in 5 figure revenues from cup runs and left the team in a higher position than when he arrived. Not convinced that is an example of the club moving backwards. As for his popularity; difficult to measure that scientifically but if you were to peruse the response on the forum at the time of his departure again Seagull’s analysis doesn’t seem to ring true. previous forum - now closed
I was prompted to post because having worked with Gary at the Bay I know he would never set out to deliberately injure a player, and I have also come across your former and current Chairman and believe them to be men of integrity who represent decent values which are reflected in your club. Values that in the past our club would also aspire to. Currently our club is going through something of an identity crisis :blink: I hope you can realise that Seagull only speaks for a minority of individuals linked to Colwyn Bay; it is sad that that similar annonymous smears of people previously involved in the club have become characteristic over recent months- but many of us hope that these will subside in time and our club can re-establish its reputation for decency in the future.
aowens wrote:
[quote]Seagull1967 wrote:
Regarding Gary Finley lets just say that during his time as Bay manager he wasn’t very popular and took the club backwards. Obviously the fact you’re top of the league suggests he’s improved since.
http://cbfc.lefora.com/2009/10/02/colwyn-bay-v-witton-2/page1/[/quote]
Not wanting this to become a CBFC feud or anything played out on this message board; but for the record, Gary did oversee moving a team from lower mid table to a narrow play off defeat, he brought in 5 figure revenues from cup runs and left the team in a higher position than when he arrived. Not convinced that is an example of the club moving backwards. As for his popularity; difficult to measure that scientifically but if you were to peruse the response on the forum at the time of his departure again Seagull’s analysis doesn’t seem to ring true. previous forum - now closed
I was prompted to post because having worked with Gary at the Bay I know he would never set out to deliberately injure a player, and I have also come across your former and current Chairman and believe them to be men of integrity who represent decent values which are reflected in your club. Values that in the past our club would also aspire to. Currently our club is going through something of an identity crisis :blink: I hope you can realise that Seagull only speaks for a minority of individuals linked to Colwyn Bay; it is sad that that similar annonymous smears of people previously involved in the club have become characteristic over recent months- but many of us hope that these will subside in time and our club can re-establish its reputation for decency in the future.
Bay fans forum[/quote]
Finley took over at the Bay at the end of January 2007 when Peter Davenport left to take over at Southport. We scraped into the playoffs but lost at the first hurdle. Not sure how much credit should go to Finley for this given that he was only in charge for a few months of the season. In 2007/08 we were moved to the arguably weaker Unibond South and had a very poor season, missing out on the playoffs completely. Not sure how this can be construed as taking the team forward.
As for cup runs I can’t remember a decent one for a least ten years unless you count the North Wales Coast FA cup. If we had a five figure revenue in 2007/08 (Finley’s only full season in charge) then this is more down the sums of money available than any success on the pitch.
Again - could someone explain where I said that there was a deliberate attempt to injure a player? The fact is the player slid in with his foot raised so high it went straight over the top of the ball and straight into an opponent’s knee. If that isn’t nasty and reckless then I don’t know what is. Doesn’t mean it’s deliberate, just means the player concerned lacks skill, finesse and a bit of common sense.
I repeat Mr Seagull - I was closer than you, and Steve Hall played the ball first, the injury was just unfortunate, hence no card.
Now fly away back to your rubbish tip, or go back to nicking chips off tourists.
Andy Chad seems to sum this up rather well.
Again to avoid any doubt our feathered chum, the only person that matters is Rob Hopley and his hopeful full recovery. Everyone wishes him the best and hopes that this turns out to be less serious.
I am surprised that the couple of ‘off the ball’ blatant attempts to harm Steve Hall have been overlooked, they were done with intent as opposed to Hall’s tackle was not, so which was worse?